Im looking at a '06 V Strom 1000. Anybody got any words of wisdom? Looking for a long distance ADV bike.
My advice?
BUY IT!!!! Ride it. Don't look back.
I had the 650. Not sure I will ever love another bike as much as that one.
I have ridden both the 1000 and 650. My advice would be to buy the 650.
Having said that, the 1000 is a good bike and a lot of bang for the buck. It is not really designed for off road but I did go on a dual sport ride where one of the riders was on a 1000 2 up :o I was pretty impressed.
Yeah, there is that. They guy who bought my 650 had a 1000 in the garage. He wanted the 650 for the mpg and commuting. He says he rarely rides the 1000 anymore.
I've got the KLR for anything too serious. Really looking for something that I can cover a lot of ground and also take down a dirt road if the need arises. I WANT an Africa Twin, but I don't see that in my immediate future. This will kinda be my first delve into the big adventure bike genre. Buy it, ride it ,, then sell it if it doesn't suit me. Hell I think I might have just talked myself into it!
Just stay off the Trace and you should be fine. 8)
I can tell you from helping Don Redman, adjusting the valves on one is a PITA.
Quote from: TFancher on March 24, 2016, 12:27:41 PM
I've got the KLR for anything too serious. Really looking for something that I can cover a lot of ground FAST and also take down a dirt road if the need arises.
That's really what I meant to say JR.
Quote from: jrobinson on March 24, 2016, 01:16:58 PM
Just stay off the Trace and you should be fine. 8)
Hahahahaha!! Yeah, and don't get my bike impounded!
Quote from: Nice Goat on March 24, 2016, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: jrobinson on March 24, 2016, 01:16:58 PM
Just stay off the Trace and you should be fine. 8)
Hahahahaha!! Yeah, and don't get my bike impounded!
Still can't believe that ya'll didn't get thrown under the jail.....
I took one for an extended ride one day. Loved the power of the thing. I'd buy the Yamaha Super Tenere, but that's because I'd rather have a shaft drive. From what I've read on them, from 2007 up are the ones to get, but if it's well priced, I guess it would be OK.
Shaft drives are over rated
I've had a 1000 and a 650, I like the 650 much more than the 1000. I rode the 650 to Utah, it was comfortable and has all the grunt you need, and more agile than the 1000, but strong wind really seems to get under the snout of that bike, it can be a little unnerving. I adjusted the valves on both bikes, twin cylinders with bucket shims, so yeah, it's a pain. While I rode plenty of dirt on both bikes, they are street bikes in my opinion, just not enough suspension in the front.
Oh yeah, I think it was cured by 2006, but my 2004 dl1000, had the "cough" or the "stutter", sometimes at low rpms the engine would stumble, never went dead on me, but it's no fun when happens in the middle of turning left at an intersection. . People were putting power commanders on, adjusting throttle bodies, all sorts of stuff, don't know if the cause was ever figured out or not.
The TL suffered the same glitch. The easiest "cure", as it was explained to me, was to simply not baby it at the initial get go. Doing such, I never experienced any hiccups. As far as shaft drive opinions, I have had bikes with all three (chain, belt, shaft) configurations, never had an issue at any time, though I understand that in the motorcycle world, proclaiming you like something must always be challenged.
The older DL1000 when stock was very lean, they need a good fuel map to run great. The lean stumble is when your lugging it below 4,000 rpm. With a power commander they can be easily tweaked to run great, mine pulls from 2500 rpm just fine. But, the power comes on the curve after 4K, you can cruise at 3500 though, but its below the torque curve and you won't gain fuel mileage. My best economy is between 4000 and 4500 rpm. The 996cc twin is not low revving, its like my KTM 950, its a high rpm machine. They cruise in 6th at 80 mph indicated at 4500 rpm. I bought one a few years ago as a beater, fixer upper. It ended up being one of my favorite bikes, I ride it anywhere now. Its all set up to my liking, its my go anywhere touring machine. I do lots of moto camping off it.
There are a few DL1000 over 200,000 miles and at least a couple made it well past 300,000 so the mechanicals are durable. I have a 2006 DL1000 and it only has 40K on it now, it sat around a lot, previously owned by a guy in the Army. I guess I put about a thousand dollars in mine, it had a fuel leak between the fuel injectors at a little rubber hose and leaky forks and the biggie, a weak charging system I noticed well after the sale. The guy had two 60 watt driving lights on it!
Very good idea to make sure the bikes are charging at 13.8/14.0 hot, once they drop to 13.7 at the battery you need to see why. Sometimes the magnets inside the fly wheel move, but its easy to tell. Just do a running voltage check. There are some DL1000s around with no issues at all for cheap prices.
I did a full service and added the usual farkles. Mine was almost completely stock, so I did the Givi engine guards, the big skid plate, tall handle bar with barkbusters, madstad windshield brackets, 22" madstad shield, tusk pannniers etc. With all my add ons its still budget friendly and I like how it handles. I paid $3700 for mine a few years ago with 26K on it. It needed a valve adjustment, my exhausts valves were tight.
The V-Stroms run a head light interrupter through the starter switch. Its a very good idea to install head light relays since Suzuki failed to do it right. The starter/head lamp circuit is not designed well and can cause a few issues in time. I ignored the warnings on the forums and it bit me, melted connector and a shorted out starter switch/button. Most guys add the eastern beaver head light relay kit, good question to ask when your looking at buying a 650 or 1000.
The bikes are generally very reliable though. I really like my DL1000, it has enough power to pass while loaded and enough to be fun for me. With my upgraded suspension and all the mods, I'm very happy with my old beater. I have no desire to change for a long time, it fits, works well on the rough narrow country roads around here. I live on a dirt road too, so I like ADV bikes for the mild dirt ability and suspension travel.
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I really like mine a lot tony. If you want to come test mine out you're welcome to. The 650 really doesn't weigh that much less than the 1000. I think it's like 50 lbs tops. It's not that big of a deal but people do say they prefer the 650. I like the 1000 because I do a lot of two up riding packed for a week. But seriously, hit me up if you want to take mine out for a day or so. It has new tires, brakes brake fluid and air filter. The air filter is a pain in the ass to change. You basically have to take the whole front of the bike apart. Any of the big adv bikes are like that. They all have something that's damn near impossible to get to.
I've also done a lot of off road riding on mine. It's fine for what I've done but I don't have anything to compare it to because that's the only bike other than a KLR I've taken off road. I once got lost in the Mojave desert 2 up on one.
This was my friends that I borrowed.
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Well the deed is done. 2012 Suzuki DL 1000 Adventure. 4668 miles. Darn near new. I've put about a hundred miles on it so far and I can't stop grinning. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160403/c302799f42038a27ed5b38a61983094b.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160403/a731707df0e2efaa8886d3558f0141e3.jpg)
Looks good. Wish I still had mine.
It's a face only a mother could love.
I'm grinning with you, T!!! Congratulations!!!
Quote from: scrappyjon on April 02, 2016, 09:11:39 PM
It's a face only a mother could love.
It's growing on me. Kinda like the homely girl at work. After a while she starts looking pretty hot.
I just smiled.
I will see it in Key West soon.
:)
Quote from: TFancher on April 02, 2016, 07:57:21 PM
Well the deed is done. 2012 Suzuki DL 1000 Adventure. 4668 miles. Darn near new. I've put about a hundred miles on it so far and I can't stop grinning. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160403/c302799f42038a27ed5b38a61983094b.jpg)
Can't wait to see it like THIS !!!!! Ha....CONGRATULATIONS
Nice! Is it gonna be the one you bring to the Free State ride?
Maybe. I'm trying to get my son to come with me and ride the KLR.
I wish mine was a black! The 2012 DL1000 is probably the best of the generation, check and see if it has the latest ECM in it. Suzuki sorted out the fuel injection better in 2012 I think, previous years were way lean. Left stock the 12 can see good fuel economy, well at least for a Strom.
For air filter changes I just loosen the fairing and engine guards, remove the tank with some wiggling. You lift the rear first and use the prop thing, then disconnect the fuel line and electrical, then pull the front pivot shaft thing and remove the tank. Its easier than it sounds, just do it when the tank is half full or less. Just be gentle and you can lift the tank off without pulling the fairing. Maybe make a wood stick for a spreader, that helps, or an extra set of hands. Guys that ride off road get really good at the quick and dirty tank removal method. There is tons of info on the web, the Stroms are well supported with lots of tech articles.
I would add head light relays or a HID system now if its stock, that saves the starter switch. The Madstad brackets and shield were well worth it for me, having an adjustable large shield lets you put the air where you like it. I love my Seat Concepts saddle kit, much better than the gel seat I was using. $169 or so, really good deal for such comfort.
Have fun, I love mine. I've had a few "cool" bikes but the DL1000 is a keeper. I just put GL1800 pegs on mine yesterday, more comfy now. A bit more leg room, larger peg, but thinner.
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:)
Sagebrush did you have any trouble retrofitting the soloboxes? I've got a new set on my KLR but I'm gonna put them on the DL. Looks like a pretty easy fix. I want to be able to switch between the two bikes with minimal trouble.
Tony, I donated a set of side case racks for a vstrom 650 to the vintage trailer. I don't know if they are still there or not, but I can look for you if they will fit the 1000(???) They were
never used and with all the hardware.
Quote from: Chitza on April 08, 2016, 02:01:01 PM
Tony, I donated a set of side case racks for a vstrom 650 to the vintage trailer. I don't know if they are still there or not, but I can look for you if they will fit the 1000(???) They were
never used and with all the hardware.
I don't think they'll fit. Both sides of the 1000 are the same because of the dual exhaust. The wee only has the one pipe.
I could be wrong though. Would be worth a try.
Soloboxes? I guess up mean my Tuck panniers? Mine are bolted to the OEM racks, I went the cheap way. So the holes match my racks. But, you can use quick release hardware from Caribou, Happy Trails etc. If i move my panniers I would just add an aluminum plate to them and drill new holes. No biggie. I had a quick release with the knobs inside on my DR650, but I sold the set up for more than I paid. I probably should have kept the pannier hardware. Hind sight in indeed 20/20. :)
I have hard plastic cases for the bike, but a jacket and a pair of gloves will fill it up. Not much storage. I think the soloboxes will mount right to the racks with a little bit of drilling.
Yeah, I tried to live with the oval shaped OEM SOFT brand panniers, that odd shape is tough to pack.
I can put double the contents into my Tusk upgrade. I got them at a discount, for a little less than retail shipped so I could not resist. I had Pelicans in the past too, but the 1550 size didn't hold enough for me. Those suckers are tough though, thick heavy plastic. My aluminum panniers are lighter and hold much more, no need to pack them tight.