I am in the process of looking for my next bike. I am the type that will research the heck out of anything I am fixing to spend a chunk of money on, so I've narrowed it down to a few different bikes. The real problem is that I can't decide between two different categories of bikes; Cruisers or Sport-Touring. I know that sounds odd at first, but I am looking at the big touring class cruisers vs. big sport-touring bikes (1250cc or bigger).
My sole "concern" is overall comfort while riding. My commute back and forth to work is negligible so that isn't an issue. It's the 300+ mile rides that I will occasionally go on (more so during the summer months) where I will likely have my wife with me. Neither of us are "small" people with our combined weight pushing 475lbs and both of us being at least 5'11" tall. Add to that any type of gear for the road and it's something that seriously needs to be considered in my choice of bike. My dilemma at the moment is deciding between a heavy big cubic inch "bagger", such as the Kawasaki Nomad, or a lighter more nimble sport-touring bike, like the FJR1300 or the Connie. Having previously owned a V-Star 1300, the riding position of the cruiser felt like my arms and feet were to far forward with my back being unsupported which resulted in lower back pain after about 250 miles. I can't help but think that the "Active Rider"position would help resolve that by keeping my back straighter since my feet would not be as far out in front of me.
We would like to hit places like Deal's Gap and the mountains, so cornering is a factor. Low speed maneuverability is important as well given the over all weight that I will ultimately be dealing with. I just don't know if it's a big enough issue to rule out the bigger cruisers like the Roadliner, Nomad, VTX1800, etc. I'm not normally a speed demon, but I do occasionally love to feel the torque pull your arms straight as you hit the throttle, and love the rumble of the V-Twin with Vance & Hines exhaust. I also like the idea of a 6 gear since I was constantly trying to find it on my V-Star. Maybe if the gearing is better suited for cruising at 75 to 80mph, without staying in the 3-4K rpm range, I would feel more comfortable with just a 5 speed tranny. I don't care for chain drive, will consider shaft drive, but prefer belt drive. Stop and go traffic in Huntsville isn't really an issue so I am indifferent on air vs liquid cooled engines, although I would prefer EFI over carb.
At this point in time, my two top runners are as follows:
2006 FJR1300
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or 2006 Kawasaki Nomad 1500
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With that, I am taking it to the board to see what some of your thoughts are. I know many of you have experienced both types of bikes and may be able to clue me in to some things I may not have considered yet.
My "expert" advice would be that since you've already had a cruiser and found the riding position brings you discomfort, don't buy another one thinking that this time it will not be uncomfortable.
My personal experience is that the cruiser riding position tends to put a strain on my back but sporty bikes put a strain on my knees. If you have bad knees and long legs, this could be an issue on a sporty bike.
Then there is the fun factor. The FJR will be way more fun on a fast ride but the Nomad would be more fun on a more relaxed ride. There is no one perfect bike for all types of riding. My solution? Multiple bikes of course 8)
This "like" feature makes it feel like FB, LMBO!
I could be persuaded to sell if interested or if you and the wife want to sit on it and see if it is comfortable your welcome to it.
2007 fjr1300
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I have lower back issues. Two Surgeries. Some of the worst back pain on a motorcycle I've ever had during a long ride was on a bagger. A road king to be exact. I am a big proponent of mid controls. Mid controls keep you straight up and down and distribute more weight away from your lower back and to your legs. Both my bikes are mid control and I never have any back pain. I am a big person but my wife is not. About 390 lbs combined. The V strom is pretty tight with the both of us but manageable, same with the Harley Dyna. I think a sport touring bike like the FJR would have a similar amount of space as my V-Strom 1000. I don't think the two of you would be comfortable.
Honestly, I think the bike for you would be a cross between the two of them.
My recommendation would be this.
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Sporty boxer 6 cyl engine
Mid Controls
and enough room for two larger people.
I've actually been looking at the Goldwings a little. Lots of them out there with over 100K in my price range, but there is one that seems to be a pretty good deal down in Dothan.
May have to take TerryRussell up on the offer to let us sit on his together to see how it feels. Won't actually be ready to buy till the spring, though. Trying to make sure I have enough cash on hand to buy on the spot since I don't really believe in financing things like this.
Yamaha Ventures are nice machines, and are priced right typically.
Can't go wrong with a wing, they are reliable.
Quote from: MadMax on September 21, 2015, 04:45:18 PM
Trying to make sure I have enough cash on hand to buy on the spot since I don't really believe in financing things like this.
Amen to that! I talked to a guy the other day who just "bought" a newer Harley. He financed it and said his payments were over $400 a month. I don't think I could ever go into debt for a motorcycle. Whenever I see a nice new motorcycle I always think, "Man, I can't wait for 15 years to pass so I can get one of these. "
I guess somebody has to buy them new though.
On the fjr, I'm with klav. I rented one before and rode it 400 miles in one day. My knees went from killing me to just being numb. You should also test out one of the bigger "adv" bikes. Some of the older 1200 gs's are finally coming down in price. Also you can get a storm for next to nothing. The peg positions are a little bit less aggressive than most of the sport touring bikes. But again, there might be a space issue. Another bike to look into would be a Valkyrie. It is based off the older goldwing 1500 6 cyl motor but with a beefier carb setup.
I think they stopped making them in 2002 but it's a Honda. If you found one that was taken care of, it will last forever. Also, like the goldwing it has mid controls. It's basically a goldwing dressed like a cruiser and they come with three different options. Basic cruiser style, hard bag style and fully dressed with fairing and top trunk. They are pretty reasonable in price too.
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I got to ride one around a few years ago. It's smooth as silk and the power never ends. Plenty of room. I always think about buying one myself.
Best of both worlds
Get a Honda F6B and puts some highway pegs on it.
You get the handling and mile crunching ability of a Gold Wing but you can still have cruiser face.
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Top case and screen options are available.
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Both are very nice options, but the Valkyrie can be found in my price range. I actually like the look of a Valkyrie, a lot... I wonder how readily available parts are since it's no longer a production bike..... hmmm, now I have a new research topic, lol.
We have a Valkyrie expert on the forum. Ask Slowroad if you have any questions.
OEM parts and aftermarket mechanical parts are readily available.
Options and farkles, not so much. If you get a Valk, which I love, try to find one with most of the accessories that you would want. The accessories are scarce and pricey when you can find them.
But, they are extremely reliable and if regular maintenance is kept up, they will last well over 200k miles.
A Valk is a large bike. It has a lot of room for rider and passenger, and the Tourer and Interstate have quite a lot of storage room.
Mine started life as a Standard, and the original owner added the HondaLine windshield. I added the factory hard bags a few years ago.
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You'd be welcome to come up this way and sit on mine sometime if you'd like. If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them for you if I can.
Tim
Just sent him a PM.
Thanks for the reference.
Ha! He was replying to the post while I was sending him a message! That's funny right there!
Great minds think alike :)
I'll actually be in Decatur tomorrow at the Morgan County Bord of Education. I have been working there on Mon / Tues for nearly 2 years now.
I am really liking the looks of this one....
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/mcy/5136104307.html (http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/mcy/5136104307.html)
Quote from: MadMax on September 20, 2015, 10:33:38 PM
2006 FJR1300
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This particular bike appears to have a custom seat. That feature goes a long ways when it comes to comfort.
As for the Valk. I think I saw one over at Allsport for sale a couple of days ago.
That's a pretty nice looking Valk, and a fair price on it. 59k miles is barely broke in ;).
@Yankee Dog
That is a custom seat. I realized after trying to find more info on it that the bike in the pic is not actually for sale. It was an add for the seat.
So now it looks like I am leaning more towards either a FJR1300 or a Valkyrie. I'm gonna miss that V-Twin rumble, but it's worth it to gain the ability to ride more and further especially 2-up when the wife decides to come along.
Remind me to show you the nickle trick if you come to see my bike. You'll never look at a v-twin the same again!! ;D
Quote from: SlowRoad on September 21, 2015, 08:33:46 PM
Remind me to show you the nickle trick if you come to see my bike. You'll never look at a v-twin the same again!! ;D
Confirmed. I have done it also. The nickel trick is not a custom add on to slowroads bike.
Quote from: scrappyjon on September 21, 2015, 08:35:46 PM
Quote from: SlowRoad on September 21, 2015, 08:33:46 PM
Remind me to show you the nickle trick if you come to see my bike. You'll never look at a v-twin the same again!! ;D
Confirmed. I have done it also. The nickel trick is not a custom add on to slowroads bike.
Hopefully I will be able to get out there tomorrow at or just before lunch time. I had already planned on being at Danville High / Middle School tomorrow working on their wireless internet so it works out beautifully.
Danville high puts you about 4 miles from my house. Give me a call and I'll get you directions.
Quote from: SlowRoad on September 21, 2015, 08:41:49 PM
Danville high puts you about 4 miles from my house. Give me a call and I'll get you directions.
Will do once I have a better idea what time I will be getting there. Working in IT, you never know how long you are gonna be due to all the "Hey, can you"'s that seem to arise when you show up onsite, lol.
A member from the previous forum who has not returned for version 2.0, described the Valkerie as "riding a big stick of butter."
As for being a passenger on the back, I was told that someone who can't sleep on the back of a bike was heard snoring on the back of that very bike in the picture. I'm sure it was just a rumor, though 8)
If only I had the money this weekend!
http://www.cycletrader.com/dealers/Motorcycle-Maxx-2830596/listing/1999-Honda-Valkyrie-Interstate-111834496
Quote from: Chitza on September 21, 2015, 08:58:00 PM
A member from the previous forum who has not returned for version 2.0, described the Valkerie as "riding a big stick of butter."
As for being a passenger on the back, I was told that someone who can't sleep on the back of a bike was heard snoring on the back of that very bike in the picture. I'm sure it was just a rumor, though 8)
"Smooth like butta" LMBO!
Quote from: Chitza on September 21, 2015, 08:58:00 PM
As for being a passenger on the back, I was told that someone who can't sleep on the back of a bike was heard snoring on the back of that very bike in the picture. I'm sure it was just a rumor, though 8)
Definitely a rumor. I know nuthing!!! ::)
Tim's bike is sweet and the sound it makes is wonderful. Yes I said that.
Quote from: MadMax on September 21, 2015, 09:01:01 PM
If only I had the money this weekend!
http://www.cycletrader.com/dealers/Motorcycle-Maxx-2830596/listing/1999-Honda-Valkyrie-Interstate-111834496
That is a sweet looking bike!
Is it me or does it look like that back tire has been converted to the dark side?
Don would be proud.
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That is a sweet looking bike!
Is it me or does it look like that back tire has been converted to the dark side?
Don would be proud.
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I believe you are right.....
The Bike shop in Leeds has a nice late model Valk for sale.
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When my wife sat the very first time on a Goldwing she explicitly made it know to me that it would be a Goldwing or she would not ride. You and you wife come on down to the "Last Ride Of the Year" and take it for a spin. We are in Lower Alabama.
2016 Goldwing
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My wife was impressed with the Wing we rented on a fly and ride to key west. Ever since nothing compares, she enjoyed our Yamaha Venture almost as much.
2015 I just bought brand new at Southern in Chattanooga.
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