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Bikes => Dual Sport => Topic started by: Ryanbroome on October 12, 2015, 10:32:25 AM

Title: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 12, 2015, 10:32:25 AM
I can call it a dual sport because I DO have a tag for it! HA

I have a problem and a question.

My problem is someone stole the carburetor for my '99 KTM 300exc out of my truck a few weeks ago and I've been unsure on what 38mm carb to put back on. I know its a Keihin PWK 38mm but I don't know how many different versions are out there of that particular carb.
My other problem is that I don't have extra money laying around so I can only do this once.

My question is do I buy a cheap used carb from shmebay for $120-180 or do I look into getting a new one from JD Jetting for $250 plus shipping? I don't think $250 is a bad price for a new carb especially seeings how it comes with their jet kit already installed. Does anyone here have some sort of opinion about JD jets?

1. Is it a good product?
2. Does it make that big of a difference on trying to tune your bike?
3. Am I retarded to care this much about a stupid carburetor?
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: springer on October 12, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
 From my experience, going new is easier and sometimes cheaper. Some of the fleabay stuff I have bought in the past turned out to be more trouble than it was worth.
The other stuff was a joy.

REALLY depends on the seller. 
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: SpeedyR on October 12, 2015, 05:35:24 PM
JD is  typically the best when it comes to jet kits for the KTM's and just general all-around knowledge. If you have the opportunity to buy one from him for $250 with his jetting kit the knowledge that he may be able to give you if you have any issues would probably be priceless
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: lazeebum on October 12, 2015, 09:10:07 PM
I am inclined to agree with Springer. The new carburetor will get you riding sooner.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 13, 2015, 06:10:34 AM

Quote from: lazeebum on October 12, 2015, 09:10:07 PM
I am inclined to agree with Springer. The new carburetor will get you riding sooner.

True. No trying to figure out which needle to go with and which position. I wasn't sure if JD was any good but anything new already set up is bound to be better than something used.
https://www.jdjetting.com/xcart/product.php?productid=60&cat=28&page=1
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: battlebuddy618 on October 14, 2015, 08:50:37 PM
Getting your carb stolen and replacing it w a new one sure is a strange way to fix a stumble / load up conditon but hopefully it works for ya.  Get that fucker together and let's go ride!
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 14, 2015, 08:57:24 PM

Quote from: battlebuddy618 on October 14, 2015, 08:50:37 PM
Getting your carb stolen and replacing it w a new one sure is a strange way to fix a stumble / load up conditon but hopefully it works for ya.  Get that fucker together and let's go ride!

Amen! I can't freaken wait
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Jason on October 14, 2015, 11:04:20 PM
I know JD is highly respected in the DRZ world as well.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Mulley on October 16, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
The new carbs from Lectron seem to be the latest hot item. It's jetless and fully adjustable.

http://www.lectronfuelsystems.com/carburetor/lectron_44mm_power_jet_high_velocity_carburetor.html

https://youtu.be/boa_TvDFT24
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 16, 2015, 02:04:34 PM

Quote from: Mulley on October 16, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
The new carbs from Lectron seem to be the latest hot item. It's jetless and fully adjustable.

http://www.lectronfuelsystems.com/carburetor/lectron_44mm_power_jet_high_velocity_carburetor.html

https://youtu.be/boa_TvDFT24
Looks nice. Do you know anything about them? Are they having good results with it? It would be worth the extra hundred bucks if it was pretty much flawless
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Mulley on October 16, 2015, 02:24:43 PM
Just that its becoming very popular and considered a good upgrade even on brand new KTMs and Betas. The fact that its fully adjustable with no needles and its super crisp off the bottom is awesome.

I like this guys channel. Here is his install and first impression on his 300 XC.

Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 16, 2015, 02:58:53 PM
Thats pretty bad ass!
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: 2smoke on October 16, 2015, 07:12:13 PM
So THAT is the 12 O'clock Boys secret!  ???

Seriously, impressive setup AND transferable  8)
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 16, 2015, 07:58:13 PM
I'd like to see how many people are using that carb.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 17, 2015, 08:02:06 AM
What bothers me about a new carb like that is how much r&d has gone into it. I don't know anything about this little miracle carb. I don't have anyone to talk to about their experiences with it. On the other hand I can get a Keihin carb that came stock on the bike with a well known needle and jet upgrade kit.
The money isn't the issue. I just keep thinking why not go back with what's supposed to be on it. Don't try to change what has been working for many many years.
I'm going to do a lot of research on this new Lectron carb before I make a decision. I'm in a hurry to ride but I don't want to get something that's  second best.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 17, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Holy shit! Look at the terrain on this video. By the way it is a bike with a Lectron carb.
http://youtu.be/A4o5YBcFSXo
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: 2smoke on October 17, 2015, 08:21:36 PM
LOL multiple opportunities to REALLY mess up there!  :o

Are there any reviews of the Lectron on other boards? Adv, GA offroad (think it is), a KTM board? I recall the name lectron, maybe from the LS1 crowd.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 17, 2015, 10:24:32 PM
There are a bunch of reviews on the line that are great. No bad ones that I have found. You seem to get better fuel mileage with it also
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 25, 2015, 09:32:46 PM
I'm not finding enough information about the Lectron carb to pull the trigger on it as of yet. I keep thinking that the best thing to do is go back with the tried and true Keihin with the JD kit but I want something different. I know I'm being a little bitch about this but it seems like a do or die decision to me. I don't want to get stuck with something I can't work with.

Decisions decisions decisions!
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: 2smoke on October 26, 2015, 07:29:33 PM
Yeah something to preferably get right the first time. Certainly local shops have seen plenty of Keihin/JD kits come through. Wonder if any have seen the Lectron? Max or MotoAce?
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 26, 2015, 07:38:49 PM

Quote from: 2smoke on October 26, 2015, 07:29:33 PM
Yeah something to preferably get right the first time. Certainly local shops have seen plenty of Keihin/JD kits come through. Wonder if any have seen the Lectron? Max or MotoAce?
I may check
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 09, 2015, 01:21:08 PM
I made the decision today to order a new Keihin carb with the JD kit from JD Jetting. To me, there wasn't enough information on the Lectron carb to make me feel comfortable about spending almost $400.00 on something that "should" work.

Can't wait for some hot laps this weekend
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Mulley on November 09, 2015, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: Ryanbroome on November 09, 2015, 01:21:08 PM
I made the decision today to order a new Keihin carb with the JD kit from JD Jetting. To me, there wasn't enough information on the Lectron carb to make me feel comfortable about spending almost $400.00 on something that "should" work.

Can't wait for some hot laps this weekend

Dang it, I failed in trying to find a guinea pig. I'm kidding, get that thing back on the trail where it belongs.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Trail guy on November 09, 2015, 08:13:10 PM
Glad the parts are on the way to get her back in one piece again. We should plan a big dirt ride soon.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 09, 2015, 09:10:23 PM

Quote from: Trail guy on November 09, 2015, 08:13:10 PM
Glad the parts are on the way to get her back in one piece again. We should plan a big dirt ride soon.

Very soon
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 12, 2015, 07:04:16 PM
Look what came in today
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/f75e364fccf9ae4e8ee94d920db8f54a.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/db38a6f599dcdd68e570ee8538a4bc38.jpg)
A little fresh fuel and oil and I'll be rolling. Maybe tomorrow
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 16, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
I have clamped the new carb on the bike and drained the 6 month old fuel out of the tank. Now it's time for a inline resistor to send some direct current power to a new led headlight
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/16/a8093a8f039a9e46c6e758c63288f8da.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/16/a6b14c1273ade7d2bdb7b511d2b148b5.jpg)
That light is very heavy so the factory plastic housing probably won't support the weight. I'll have to make a bracket behind the plastic to hold the new light in place. Not sure how yet but I'll come up with something this week.
Getting closer!
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: bblass on November 16, 2015, 12:55:38 PM
I've got the same light on my TTR and wound up having to weld a new bracket after my first time out with the old one. Still have some steel left over from making mine if you're in the bham area.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 16, 2015, 02:32:49 PM

Quote from: bblass on November 16, 2015, 12:55:38 PM
I've got the same light on my TTR and wound up having to weld a new bracket after my first time out with the old one. Still have some steel left over from making mine if you're in the bham area.
I really appreciate it but I think I have enough at home. I'll hit you up if I don't though
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 20, 2015, 08:32:55 AM
It's like making your canoe fit in the Prius. It sucks!

But I did get the new light to fit in the old plastic housing last night. After 6 hours of cutting and bending and welding it finally looks right.
Some paint and connectors tonight and I should be done.(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/20/b64432e65be200f5e80b1d20f8f05c9e.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/20/afef8de5a85d351c0aa446ac1080f0de.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/20/80920a009ce2b22789ca154ed785a9b0.jpg)
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: matthew.j.riley1 on November 20, 2015, 08:43:18 AM
Nice work. I like how you used the tie rod for adjustment

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Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: jrou111 on November 20, 2015, 09:25:10 AM
Looks good! So when are we doing a night ride???  8)
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 20, 2015, 09:29:14 AM

Quote from: jrou111 on November 20, 2015, 09:25:10 AM
Looks good! So when are we doing a night ride???  8)
I hope very very soon. Should have time this weekend to get the new carb dialed in. So maybe next week?
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: jrou111 on November 20, 2015, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: Ryanbroome on November 20, 2015, 09:29:14 AM

Quote from: jrou111 on November 20, 2015, 09:25:10 AM
Looks good! So when are we doing a night ride???  8)
I hope very very soon. Should have time this weekend to get the new carb dialed in. So maybe next week?

Works for me. My usual night for riding is on Wednesdays, but I'm flexible.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 20, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: jrou111 on November 20, 2015, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: Ryanbroome on November 20, 2015, 09:29:14 AM

Quote from: jrou111 on November 20, 2015, 09:25:10 AM
Looks good! So when are we doing a night ride???  8)
I hope very very soon. Should have time this weekend to get the new carb dialed in. So maybe next week?

Works for me. My usual night for riding is on Wednesdays, but I'm flexible.

I'm going to see if I can make that happen.
Title: Re: 2T dual sport work shop
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 21, 2015, 02:56:14 PM
I can't even wait until I get home to say how freakin awesome the KTM is running with the new carb. It performs exactly like it should. It has yet to load up and it hits the power valve every time you crack the throttle. Now the back tire sucks and will have to be replaced very soon. I didn't have that problem before. Wonder why