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Title: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Nice Goat on June 01, 2017, 10:44:01 PM
Yamaha is unveiling a new touring machine on Monday at 6:00pm Central.  The unveiling will be streamed live from Americade in Lake George, New York. 

You can see it at this website: https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/transcontinental-touring (https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/transcontinental-touring)

They are calling it an "transcontinental tourer" with hints that it will have fuel injection, reverse gear, bluetooth audio, built in GPS, ABS, etc.

Will it bear the "Venture" name or will it be something different?  Is Yamaha declaring war on the GoldWing?

I can't wait to see it!

Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: springer on June 02, 2017, 03:56:48 AM
 They are bringing it out under the Star sub-brand so I think it will be a  cruiser type touring bike.   
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: huffy on June 05, 2017, 09:01:42 PM
The unwrap has happened ! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/20b25630a4faf917aa116f5bce428969.png)



Comes out for sale in September 
Star venture
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Nice Goat on June 05, 2017, 09:41:26 PM
The 2018 Yamaha Star Big Juicy Sexy Venture Royale With Cheese
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: polarissalesman on June 06, 2017, 03:53:22 PM
I like it, loaded with options, and sounds great too....   https://www.shopyamaha.com/journey-further this is a link to it. What do you think?
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: polarissalesman on June 06, 2017, 04:12:39 PM
here is a better view   https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/transcontinental-touring/models/2018/star-venture/view360/6
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Campbell92 on June 07, 2017, 10:10:20 AM
I am a sucker for a vintage bike. We currently have a 1983 Yamaha Venture that I am trying hard to not buy since I am 25 and should be driving a sport bike or adventure bike.....oh stereotypes. This new bike though ;D ;D ;D I am excited. Yamaha redesigned the Venture of yester-year and added a ton of new well needed updates. Kind of reminds me of how Dodge took the Challenger, made it modern, but kept it cool.

Yamaha did a good job at keeping it cool (or even hot in the winter). A  1,854cc V-twin touring/cruiser with heated everything, reverse, speakers, luggage to carry enough to do a moon mission, sleek design, 5 year warranty, and the list goes on. Yamaha, in my opinion, has always been a good company to keep things ahead of the curve. I am sure they have made a good one!

I am 25 and this thing has me drooling. Check out the first full review I have been able to find
here ---> http://bit.ly/2rB3Rc0
We are hoping to be one of the first dealers to carry them so keep your eyes and ears peeled if you want to see one in person. Until then I will keep drooling on this ol' 83!

What are your thoughts and opinions on the new bike? Think it can compete with Harley and Honda?
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: klaviator on June 07, 2017, 10:51:43 AM
When I was in my late 20s I rode a sport bike and figured full dress touring bikes where for old farts.

Then I took an 83 Venture for a test ride.  I ended up buying it.  I bought it so my wife could enjoy the ride too and we could take some trips together.  Surprisingly that Venture made a pretty good sport bike and I rode it like one.  I kept it for about 10 years and 72,000 miles.  That Venture had a hot rod engine, good cornering clearance and weighed well under 800 pounds.  It was a great bike. 

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/wknudsen/OLD%20PICS%20AND%20SCANS/gt3_zps5bzzchqh.jpg)

Then in 1986 Yamaha "upgraded" the Venture.  They made it bigger, heavier and reduced the cornering clearance.  It was a better touring bike but lost much of it's sportiness.

The new Star Venture?

It looks nice but how does it work?  Is it like the original Venture or another 900 pound touring bike?  How well does it work on a twisty road?  I guess we'll find out all that in time.  Personally I think it looks good but I'm not interested in a 900 pound touring bike.  Luckily for Yamaha, many riders are as the Gold Wing and Electra Glide have been pretty popular.  Yamaha has a pretty big challenge trying to lure riders from those two bikes.  I wish them well.

If they built a bike like this that weighed under 700 pounds I might be interested but I don't see that happening.

Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: sctparker on June 07, 2017, 12:07:17 PM
 "Yamaha redesigned the Venture of yester-year and added a ton of new well needed updates"

 Yes they got rid of the cassette player , but opted for
air cooled ( even harley saw a need to address the heat , I know it was partially for emissions but it made their bike a little more bearable in stop and go summer traffic)  and  a belt drive, What was wrong with doing as before and de-tune the v-max motor? I would be in line with my $500 preorder if they had stayed with the V-4

  "Luckily for Yamaha, many riders are as the Gold Wing and Electra Glide have been pretty popular.  Yamaha has a pretty big challenge trying to lure riders from those two bikes.  "

At a base model price of 24,999 for the Royal Venture ( you can have a base model Gold Wing or Harley for the same money)
 and for a additional 2k  you can upgrade your Royal Venture with  GPS navigation, SiriusXM®, additional speakers and Yamaha’s exclusive Dual Zone audio control. Standard LED fog lights, additional on board storage and an alarmed security system. I don't think they can compete with them , but maybe I'll be wrong.

Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: klaviator on June 07, 2017, 01:33:19 PM

At a base model price of 24,999 for the Royal Venture ( you can have a base model Gold Wing or Harley for the same money)
 and for a additional 2k  you can upgrade your Royal Venture with  GPS navigation, SiriusXM®, additional speakers and Yamaha’s exclusive Dual Zone audio control. Standard LED fog lights, additional on board storage and an alarmed security system. I don't think they can compete with them , but maybe I'll be wrong.

A bike isn't defined just by it's spec sheet.  On paper the Venture doesn't seem to have any advantage on the existing players.  However, some people will buy it just because they prefer the way it looks.  Another big factor will be how it performs, rides, handles, feels and even how it sounds.  I'm sure the motorcycle mags will do some comparison tests.  If the new Venture does well there then it may have a chance.  If it works really well then the word will get around. 

Then  there is the dealer factor.  If I was looking for a big touring bike, everything else being equal, the Venture would have an edge over the Gold Wing or Harley in that I'd prefer to deal with All Sport over the other local dealers. 
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: klaviator on June 07, 2017, 01:41:19 PM
I just read that this thing is 963 pounds wet, about 50 heavier than a Gold Wing.  If that's true then this is neither a cruiser or tourer, it's an RV :o
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: yamahamer on June 07, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
I have owned both a Venture and a Stratoliner and I'm with Scott. The V4 and shaft drive should have been kept.
Yamaha Venture has a following, a large following and I think they just lost them.
The 1900 is a great motor but I don't feel it will ever last like a V4. I wish them luck and I may be wrong but I see a flop.
My 2 cents................

(http://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/379555_205094132904522_1381465271_n.jpg?oh=24fb52600ee3551605cf5a11c70e26e0&oe=59D734D2)

(http://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/384964_205094109571191_728591695_n.jpg?oh=81c4a8acd361830e87d74d1688512cf1&oe=59E1E552)

 
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Nice Goat on June 07, 2017, 08:56:33 PM
I love the looks of the bike, but I was hoping for 4-cyl and shaft drive also.  Can a v-twin with cylinders the size of coffee cans last 200k miles, even one made by Yamaha?
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: merc16 on June 08, 2017, 07:48:03 AM
I like it but I was hoping for a V-Max engine of some sort.
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Campbell92 on June 09, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Yamaha was way ahead of there time when they made the first Venture. I am hoping they have a few tricks up there sleeve when it comes to this bike. They may know something we don't know. If they can make triples more popular I feel like they can re-vamp this market and make the options a tad bit wider if anything.

My main wish is they would give you 2 options: A: The current v twin model or B: a 4-cyl
not A:Less farkle or B:more farkle

We will see the final verdict hopefully when we receive our first model in the end of July or August.
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: maydaymike on June 14, 2017, 06:55:12 AM
I bet they'll sell a ton of them.  It'll only take two, so it shouldn't be that hard.

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Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: merc16 on June 14, 2017, 09:11:46 AM
I bet they'll sell a ton of them.  It'll only take two, so it shouldn't be that hard.

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 ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Chuck A. on June 14, 2017, 09:57:48 PM
I like it alot ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Nightwind15 on June 16, 2017, 11:51:48 AM
My Raspberry Red in on order now!  I am super excited, this is like when the first Ventures came out back in 83!!
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: merc16 on June 17, 2017, 07:17:45 PM
My Raspberry Red in on order now!  I am super excited, this is like when the first Ventures came out back in 83!!

Ironic that you have a '83 in the dealership. You should make a display with them together.
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: klaviator on July 21, 2017, 10:49:09 AM
Motorcyclist just gave this bike a really positive review:  http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2018-yamaha-star-venture-first-ride-review?src=SOC&dom=tw#page-10 (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2018-yamaha-star-venture-first-ride-review?src=SOC&dom=tw#page-10)
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Campbell92 on July 21, 2017, 11:06:19 AM
Motorcyclist just gave this bike a really positive review:  http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2018-yamaha-star-venture-first-ride-review?src=SOC&dom=tw#page-10 (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2018-yamaha-star-venture-first-ride-review?src=SOC&dom=tw#page-10)

I saw! Makes me pretty excited. I cant wait for our first models to roll in soon.
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Nice Goat on September 06, 2017, 08:13:25 PM
To reduce confusion, I merged all three threads on this new bike.

Also, they've announced another version to compete with the Road Glide and the F6B....

I give you the 2018 Yamaha Star Eluder .... basically a Venture without the top case.




Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Campbell92 on September 07, 2017, 11:48:33 AM
I think the new eluder beats the Honda by a longshot. I think Honda tried to sell a Yamaha to Honda guys and tripped themselves up. Compared to the Harley I think the Eluder and the Venture might be swinging some new people over to Yamaha. Only time will tell. Based off video for both bikes, it looks like they handle like a dream. We have a few guys going up to Tennessee to test the Venture next Friday if anyone is interested.
Title: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Campbell92 on January 02, 2018, 12:53:16 PM
Well we finally got one of these bad boys on the showroom floor and I have to say I am very impressed. I have never seen so many bells and whistles on one bike so conveniently easy to access. The assembly was quite time consuming but well worth it in the end. Being about 5ft 8in and a tad over a buck fifty I was amazed at how easy it was to get off the kickstand. Don't let the size fool you based off all I have read it seems like all the weight disappears once the bike is moving. I am pumped for a demo model to be coming in. I am a member on a facebook forum for the bike and there are already riders packing on some major miles even in this cold. I guess its a good thing it comes with basically heated everything! I highly recommend checking one out. The hype was as true as could be.
PS The shootout between this bike and the new and improved Goldwing should be amazing....just saying!
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Nice Goat on January 02, 2018, 08:09:42 PM
I sat on it about a week ago.  Without any instructions, I quickly figured out how to operate the audio and change radio stations, etc.  Very intuitive controls.  Bike felt nice also.  Carries its weight well.  Hopefully I can chase down a demo truck this year.


Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Hammerdown77 on January 26, 2018, 02:50:15 PM
Any word on when and where a Yamaha demo truck might appear close by this year?  And I mean close by for North Alabama... 
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: lastparrot on January 26, 2018, 03:24:46 PM
I sat on it about a week ago.  Without any instructions, I quickly figured out how to operate the audio and change radio stations, etc.  Very intuitive controls.  Bike felt nice also.  Carries its weight well.  Hopefully I can chase down a demo truck this year.
These are nice too ride.  I hope they have worked out the rev limiter issue (it was to low)  but i was on a pre production model.  The bike surprises with how well it handles.

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Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: sctparker on January 04, 2019, 08:14:37 PM
Yeah I know this thread is almost a year old .

I was holding off on looking into one of these because of the fact that it's a vtwin air cooled and thinking maybe the look would grow on me and  the fact I

usually do not purchase the first run (on a side note still not interested but told myself to look into it again in a year) Well thru my research there is not

going to be a 2019 model because of the lack of sales, basically it tanked.

Don't know for sure and maybe polarissalesman or campbell92 can verify this

Numerous actual Owners of the 2018 SVTC/Eluder models have been pressing Yamaha concerning the question of why no 2019 models are being offered (out of obvious concern).  Yamaha has officially responded to those inquiries with letters stating that due to poor sales, no 2019's will be made and the future of  the  venture/eluder models will remain questionable based on whether or not the left over inventory of 2018's sell during the 2019 riding season.  They have also been told that even if the model does go back to production it will be strickly done by a new "Yamaha Pre-Order System" and no bikes will be shipped to fill dealership floor space.
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: klaviator on January 04, 2019, 08:55:00 PM
If you like this bike I have heard of some really great deals being offered since they haven't sold well. 
Title: Re: 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
Post by: Nice Goat on January 04, 2019, 09:32:41 PM
I test rode the new Venture at Pinnacle in Bessemer, back around June or so.  Rode it back-to-back with the new Gold Wing.  The Venture has a very nice fit and finish, and the motor sounds really, really nice.  But...

I had not even made it out of the parking lot when I was scraping floorboards.  Literally within the first 20 feet, without even trying.  The ground clearance is awful.  Also, I think the rev limiter kicks in way too soon, like around 5,000 RPM.  First time I hit it, I wasn't even trying.  I thought something was wrong with the bike.

If you want to go slow and straight, the new Venture is an excellent choice.