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Title: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on November 17, 2015, 02:11:59 PM
I have the months of June and July OFF. (I know. You are welcomed to hate me).  I want to do an epic road trip. I am a list maker. What should go on my essentials list? Other than clean socks 8)
Title: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Nice Goat on November 17, 2015, 02:54:23 PM
Budget $40 to ship 15 pounds of crap back home to yourself.  :)
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: jrobinson on November 17, 2015, 04:15:27 PM
Take old clothes, then just throw them away when dirty.

Go against your "list making".... ride and enjoy with out rules, reservations, or expectations.  :)
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Nice Goat on November 17, 2015, 05:26:21 PM
In all seriousness, I used to carry too many clothes.  Now I don't carry enough.  I have a green Dry-Sil bag for clean clothes, and a red Dry-Sil bag for dirty clothes.  I think that they are 13 liters each.  Socks and underwear are the only things that I change every day.  Everything else depends on smell.  If necessary, find a laundromat to wash them ... it's better than having too much stuff on the bike.

Toiletries, obviously.  Don't forget chap stick, eyedrops, toilet paper, wet wipes, sunblock, bug spray/wipes, soap, shampoo, toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant, tweezers, clippers, etc.  Make yourself a small first aid kit also, with some large bandages, QuikClot gauze, waterproof tape, antibiotic ointment, Ibuprofen, Pepto Bismol, snake bite kit, etc. --- whatever suits your fancy.  The act of building one and carrying it at all times will make you more safety-conscious.

Tools -- Easy to go crazy here.  Most metric bikes only need a large and small crescent, pliers, needlenose, phillips, flathead, and a selection of wrenches/sockets from 8mm-12mm.  I don't worry about flat tires on street rides --- I've got a credit card and insurance for that.  Don't forget plastic cleaner and a couple of clean microfiber rags --- hard to see through all the bugs after a few hundred miles.  Also, get a high quality multitool and a high quality tactical-sized flashlight (one or two CR123 batteries).  I use those all the time.  I also carry a couple of green glow sticks, just to have a little ambient light when camping. 

Camping gear -- I always carry my sleeping bag and a tent/hammock, even if I am planning to stay in a hotel.  Stuff happens ... I want to be warm and dry.

Cooking gear -- Unless you are going into the woods, don't bother.  It's easier to just grab a sandwich somewhere.

Electronics -- I'm not carrying the big Nikon on any more moto trips.  Too big of a hassle.  I now carry only iPhone, handheld GPS, helmet camera, Bluetooth headset, and a 20.1mAh Anker power supply.  I can use the iPhone for phone, GPS, camera, music, note-taking, etc.  The Anker power supply can recharge my phone seven times.  Also carry 12v chargers.  Thinking about getting my wife a new point-and-shoot for Christmas and taking her old one --- it takes really nice pictures and it is tiny.

Finally -- "Concealed carry" --- the tool you hope you never need.  Avoid areas with pawn shops, strip clubs, etc.  Stick to neighborhoods that have Panera, Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, etc. --- they are safer and the food is better.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on November 17, 2015, 06:29:51 PM
Thanks, Glenn. That's a great list. Made me think of things I had not considered.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Yankee Dog on November 17, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
two months...   You need to go to Alaska..

The missus and I carry two pairs of high tech quick dry socks and underwear. In most cases you can wash them at night and they will be dry in the morning. You could get by with only one pair, but sometimes they dont quite dry. Thus the reason for two sets.

The same armored, textile vented riding pants are worn every day. The jacket is armored mesh. We also carry an evaporative vest for when it gets real hot, along with a camelback full of ice. For cold days its a high tech long sleeve shirt, heated liner, wind shirt and mesh jacket. If it gets too cold for that the rain gear goes over it all. On our trip to the Grand Canyon this set up took us from 107 to 37.

Evening wear consists of a couple of a pair of jeans, a couple of t-shirts and a long sleeve shirt. The heated liner and wind shirt serve as off the bike cold weather clothing.

Throw in an extra bottle of water or two for emergencies. Dont worry if they get warm/hot. If you break down somewhere remote you will be glad for them regardless of their temperature. DAMHIK
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: springer on November 17, 2015, 08:01:09 PM
 Alaska would be an awesome trip. If you do not want to go that far north, at lest go west.  Budget some time for Colorado, skip as much of Kansas as you can.  ;) Like all of it.  ;D Check the coverage of your cellphone provider, if it is not good enough for where you want to go, change it. Carry a good pair of hiking boots with you. There will be some places you will want to see that you may need to hike to.

Awesome summer for you is ahead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on November 17, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
Thanks guys. I have a trip in mind. And a running list of what I need. I will need that time to research, plan, save and buy the items I don't already have. I'm liking the Amazon wish list :)
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Gam on November 17, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
Light nylon clothing like the ex officio stuff, I really like their underwear. You can get dressed then get  in the shower, You get your clothes cleaned, and have evaporative cooling for a little while. Not a joke.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Argh Oh on November 18, 2015, 08:08:34 AM
Sounds absolutely awesome!! Head West young lady.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: scrappyjon on November 18, 2015, 08:22:11 AM
Don't forget to talk to locals. Ask them where to go. Some of the best places I have ridden "abroad" would have never happened if I hadn't talked to people who lived in the area I was in. A lot of the time they will come to you and start talking to you, like at a gas station. One of my absolute favorite rides of all time, in Texas would have never had happen if I didn't have the advice of local, the twisted sisters (by the way, you should go ride the hill country out there).  They can also tell you good places to stay/camp that you otherwise would have never known about. It's surprising how many places aren't listed on the internet. That's one reason why I get frustrated when people only go by trip adviser.  There's a whole world you could be missing out on.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: bblass on November 18, 2015, 08:33:39 AM
Check out buying some MOLLE gear from an army surplus store. Lots of various sized pouches that you can configure to meet your needs. Everything latches down securely and it makes life easier being able to grab one thing off your pack rather than having to route through a bag.

Also, zip ties! They're one of the world's greatest field expedient tools.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: norton73 on November 18, 2015, 09:18:14 AM
Mount some knobbies do the T.A.T.
  ;D

some great suggestions on clothing. Depending on what you have in mind, don't pack anything cotton. Long pants that zip off to be shorts, fleece sweater,  polypro tops, fleece or wool socks,  anything quick dry so you can wear one set while washing and drying the other set.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: klaviator on November 18, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
Check out the weather for everywhere on your trip and plan your riding gear for both the high and low temps along the way.  When I went out west last year I did this and got temps from below 40 to above 100 degrees and I did see both extremes. 

Don't carry all your cash/ID's, credit cards, etc in one place.  I split my stuff into two wallets so If I lose one I could continue on.

I'm guessing you are planning on camping but if you expect to stay at any motels then pick up some of those motel coupons as you enter the state.   Web based motel sites like Trip Advisor, Expedia, etc are often NOT the best deal.

Consider doing a ride report on ADV.  While your friends may be on Bamarides, there will be a lot of people from the places you are going on ADV.  I did get some valuable advice for my trip from my ride report last year.  Since you are going for 2 months, more people will follow your report and you may get a lot of advice and quite likely some invited for free meals, lodging and possible someone to ride with for some parts of your trip. 

Of course, do a ride report here.  Many of us on Bamarides have been all over the country as well.

As for where to go, my favorite is Utah, but all the western states have some great riding.


Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on November 19, 2015, 03:18:57 PM
Let's discuss the conceal carry thing. I know that Alabama has reciprocity with some other states. I am unfamiliar with how to handle this in states without reciprocity. (Now I do know what they don't know blah blah blah). But what is the actual legal way to handle this?
Title: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Yankee Dog on November 19, 2015, 06:20:27 PM
Depends on state law.  But I believe if you put the gun in one bag, ammo in another and lock them both you would be legal most every where.

Don't even think about it if you are going to Canada or Mexico however. 
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Al Goodwin on November 22, 2015, 03:20:03 PM
EXCELLENT thread.

There's a few of us planning a trip up into Alaska next year, leaving out July 9th... Planning on 28 days.

Melony and I will be 2-up, so packing as light as possible will be at the TOP of my list.

Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: springer on November 22, 2015, 07:30:57 PM
Quote from: Chitza on November 19, 2015, 03:18:57 PM
Let's discuss the conceal carry thing. I know that Alabama has reciprocity with some other states. I am unfamiliar with how to handle this in states without reciprocity. (Now I do know what they don't know blah blah blah). But what is the actual legal way to handle this?
Do you have a Concealed Carry Permit for Alabama? If so, go here;
http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

and click on the State of Alabama to see the states that will allow you to carry a pistol or revolver in their state using an Alabama permit.

It is a reciprocity map of the U.S. Since you have to ride through Canada to get to Alaska, you are out of luck there.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Nice Goat on November 22, 2015, 08:40:06 PM
Or you can take a ferry from WA.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Yankee Dog on November 22, 2015, 09:10:58 PM

Quote from: gharshman on November 22, 2015, 08:40:06 PM
Or you can take a ferry from WA.

Not as clear cut as you may think. Washington does not have agreements with Alabama. And you get on the ferry there. When we got on the ferry from Michigan to Wisconsin they had a guard and a sniffer dog checking for weapons. 
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: scrappyjon on November 22, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
Karla, I think you should forget the pistol and take a set of these bad boys.

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Or a few of these.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/22/d0c891dc1a050ffc081526007caffa3c.jpg)

And maybe make a holster for one of these to leave on your tank.

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Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Nice Goat on November 22, 2015, 10:30:13 PM

Quote from: Yankee Dog on November 22, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Not as clear cut as you may think. Washington does not have agreements with Alabama. And you get on the ferry there. When we got on the ferry from Michigan to Wisconsin they had a guard and a sniffer dog checking for weapons.

Revised Code of Washington (RCW) allows transport of unloaded firearms.  RCW 9.41.060, para. (9)

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060)

Ferry system follows Revised Code of Washington (RCW) for carrying firearms.

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Ferries/infodesk/faq/security/ (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Ferries/infodesk/faq/security/)

Not sure what the requirements are in WI or MI, but I don't think any states prohibit transporting a firearm if the firearm is unloaded and locked away, and inaccessible to the occupants.  Some states have higher requirements, like "container designed for storing firearms" and "ammunition in seperate container", etc.  You just have to find out what the requirements are, but as long as you are not a felon, mentally unfit, or an adjudicated wife-beater, the states cannot prevent lawful unloaded transport, only concealed carry.

Best bet is to get a lock box/bag designed for storing firearms and carry the firearm unloaded in that locked bag when in a state that does not respect Alabama's permit.  Put ammo in a seperate bag, and make them as inaccessible to yourself as possible.

Or, only do that when you are about to ride a ferry...
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: JBMFT on November 25, 2015, 11:45:28 AM
Since you are a list maker, I've been using this one for years. I think I've posted it before.

http://micapeak.com/checklists/mclist.html
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on November 25, 2015, 01:04:12 PM
Thanks, JT! I've been looking for that. I thought I saved it when you posted it last.
*deep sigh of relief*
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on December 27, 2015, 09:26:31 AM
I'm GPS shopping for this trip. I really like Garmin over the other brands. I need screen size that I can see. I want Bluetooth (to use with my Sena headset).

I will need maps of US(obviously) and Canada. How important is access to Lifetime maps? And traffic info? It would be nice to have the SD card for music storage(one less thing to pack/charge).

What do you use/like/recommend?
Title: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Zeus on December 27, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Pair iPhone to Zumo and Zumo to Sena.
Sound quality sucks once converted to the file format to go on the SD card.
Zumo has the best routing tools of all the GPS's I have or have had.
Any specific questions and I may be able to answer.
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Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Yankee Dog on December 27, 2015, 10:01:42 AM
My maps are several years old.  I have not found it to be a problem.  Roads don't change all that much. As for traffic, only useful in the big cities during rush hour. 

Can't help with the the Bluetooth and music part.  Not on my list of features.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: KevinB on December 27, 2015, 12:39:14 PM
I bought a 660LM about 6 months ago (for @$370, and that was  good deal then), and really like it. It has proven waterproof, and has survived a fall/slide on pavement at 60mph. I'm having issues with my phone syncing with it, but otherwise no problems...works great with my Sena.

I like the lifetime maps not so much for road updates, but gas/food/etc. location updates.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: mojo1 on December 27, 2015, 06:57:19 PM
I bought a tom tom rider 5. I like it ok. It is supposed to connect to most headsets except the cardo scala g9x that I have. Didnt figure that out until after I got it. I have enough voices in my head any way  ;D
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Zeus on December 28, 2015, 12:20:08 AM
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on February 02, 2016, 06:39:21 AM
I picked up a 35L Givi top box from Shepcam last fall and finally got around to installing it.

The OEM tail rack was not compatible so I removed it and fabricated one out of a scrap piece of wood. Sanded very smooth and two coats of Kilz primer, four coats of black enamel and I'm not worried about weather damage. I mean, it was free and there's more where that came from.

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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160202/3c7c8516f7a5dc4de02c1b7d3d65a519.jpg)

I drilled holes to match the stock tail mount. Bolts, locking washers and wing nuts for easy enough removal. 5mins Max to return to stock and I have watertight storage.
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I don't plan to have much weight in it so I'm not concerned, though I couldn't budge it with all my weight.
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Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: norton73 on February 02, 2016, 04:42:22 PM
Need a small grill?

http://diyprojects.ideas2live4.com/2016/01/29/how-to-make-a-pocket-grill/

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Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on February 02, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
Pretty darn cool, Andy!!
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on June 17, 2016, 07:23:57 AM
18 days and counting!!! New tires and rear suspension next week. New SPOT on the way. I'll post the link in a ride report thread. 11,000 miles round trip.
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Al Goodwin on June 20, 2016, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: Chitza on June 17, 2016, 07:23:57 AM
18 days and counting!!! New tires and rear suspension next week. New SPOT on the way. I'll post the link in a ride report thread. 11,000 miles round trip.

I mounted tires last week, greased linkage and rear suspension last night....oil change TONIGHT.


Ordered some "quick-dry" boxer-briefs last night....still looking for socks.


Start making a list, finally, tomorrow :-\

Start packing tomorrow as well. 8)
Title: Re: EPIC trip planning
Post by: Chitza on June 20, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
Hahaha. You know my list was made in January! Start packing this week!
Title: EPIC trip planning
Post by: kbishop on June 21, 2016, 09:59:50 PM
A few years ago I found the luxury of compression socks. These are used by folks traveling on planes for 8 hours plus. The keep the circulation up and keep the blood from pooling at your feet. There are several brands. I have worn out 3 pair in 3 years. They are great when street riding for several hours. Here is a link to some on Amazon. Or just google travel compression socks. https://www.amazon.com/Travelsox-TSS6000-Graduated-Compression-Performance/dp/B0077JWV6I