Motorcycle Alabama

Open House => Tech Talk => Topic started by: springer on September 14, 2015, 12:44:02 PM

Title: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: springer on September 14, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
 Yea, you should ride it ever where but eventually there will come a time when you cannot. Flat tire with no way to repair or the tire it self is not repairable, something else breaks on your bike, bad weather or time, everything mentioned, and a few other things can prevent you from riding your motorcycle.
So now you got to haul your bike somewhere. The best way to do this is with a full size cargo van. The floor of the van is usually as low as a trailer and much lower than a pickup truck. Plus your motorcycle is enclosed, out of the weather, and hidden from thieving eyes. Van are easier to back up than a trailer and tow vehicle too.
Next up is a trailer and a tow vehicle. If the trailer is enclosed you have most of the advantages of a van except the backing up part. The floor of a trailer is lower than the bed of a pickup making it easier to load.
Last is a pickup truck. Depending on how heavy the motorcycle is the tailgate might need to be removed. Just loading a heavy motorcycle onto a pickup could bend the tailgate.  Also just having the rear tire of a normal weight motorcycle sitting on the tailgate while riding down the road can result in a bent or busted tailgate. There is a good chance that if that happens you will also damage your motorcycle. 
With all the disadvantages listed above(and a few I am sure I have forgotten) hauling a motorcycle in the bed of a pickup is a common thing. If that is all you got, you have to go with it and make the best out of it.
One thing you have to do, no matter how you are transporting your motorcycle, is tie it down. Do it wrong you will damage the motorcycle and damage what ever you are using to haul the motorcycle.
Out of all the videos on the web that deal with hauling your bike, this video from RevZilla is one of the best. It shows how to load a motorcycle, both on a trailer and a pickup, plus it has a good how to on securing the motorcycle.

Enjoy;

Title: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: scrappyjon on September 14, 2015, 01:24:27 PM
I hauled my bike for the first time ever a couple of weeks ago. I put it in the back of the ranger. The truck was struggling and I was a nervous wreck the whole time. Not something I'm looking forward to doing again. I think a creeper van would be awesome. Or an in closed trailer and a truck that has more horsepower than the bike.

I can see hauling a dirt bike or small dual sport in the back of the ranger but I think the dl1000 was a little much for it.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: Nice Goat on September 14, 2015, 01:58:13 PM
Man, I really hate loading bikes into pickup trucks.  I've done it, but it scares the hell out of me every time.  It wasn't too bad when I had the 2WD Tacoma, but the 4WD Tundra felt like it was 10 feet tall.

For me, the only way I like to haul a bike (when I have to) is with a utility trailer.  Even then, I don't like to go over 65 mph.

Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: klaviator on September 14, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
I hate towing trailers.  I much prefer hauling bikes in the back of my truck.  I have loaded and unloaded my bikes so many times that it's not that big of a deal for me.  I loaded my R1100GS into the back of a truck by myself many times.  That was pretty nerve racking.  I prefer not to load bikes over 400 pounds but I hauled my Versys to NM in June.  I did a trial load of my Majesty yesterday since i will be hauling it to OH and WV next week.  I bought a better ramp so it made it much easier.

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/wknudsen/2015%20pics/Southwest%20by%20Versys/P5300006_zpsoei4ntcx.jpg)

Back in 2005 I hauled a KLR650 and DR650 out to Utah and then NM

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/wknudsen/OLD%20PICS%20AND%20SCANS/moabavalanche_zpsb8892d69.jpg)

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(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/wknudsen/OLD%20PICS%20AND%20SCANS/NewMexavalanche_zpsa15e1db4.jpg)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: springer on September 14, 2015, 02:46:00 PM
 A buddy of mine has a Kendal 3 bike trailer. Expensive, yes but you can not you are towing anything. No bouncing, pulling' or swaying, awesome it is.  Easy to load, takes up very little room when not in use.

Here is a 2 bike one;

Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: wavyspike on September 15, 2015, 05:52:31 AM
I've only had to trailer my bike three times and each time is more scary than the last. The first was when I bought it; carried it home in the bed of an 87 Silverado without any trouble. The second was in the bed of a F150, which was ok. The last was in my dads utility trailer which was crazy because it was so bouncy. Here's a pic, maybe went a little overboard on the ropes.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/15/9f8baf186e44841a6e2700859b40cbbe.jpg)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: scrappyjon on September 15, 2015, 09:26:35 AM

Quote from: wavyspike on September 15, 2015, 05:52:31 AM
I've only had to trailer my bike three times and each time is more scary than the last. The first was when I bought it; carried it home in the bed of an 87 Silverado without any trouble. The second was in the bed of a F150, which was ok. The last was in my dads utility trailer which was crazy because it was so bouncy. Here's a pic, maybe went a little overboard on the ropes.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/15/9f8baf186e44841a6e2700859b40cbbe.jpg)

Haha! That bike isn't going anywhere.

My test was is if I shook the bike and the truck shook with it then it was good to go.

It didn't move an inch but it was still scary. Every time I hit a bump my bungholio would clinch.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: springer on September 15, 2015, 09:29:41 AM
 No such thing as to many straps  :), but you can strap it down to tight. The forks and rear shock needs to have some up and down travel.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: KrisCook on September 15, 2015, 10:39:24 AM
<<It didn't move an inch but it was still scary. Every time I hit a bump my bungholio would clinch. >>

I am going to get fired, I swear.  That was my coffee snort of the day.  Scrappy, you're nuts. 

And I was already laughing at all those tie straps. 

Great thread.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: 2smoke on September 15, 2015, 08:44:57 PM
Members of the 'over the hill gang' and/or vertically challenged may appreciate the low height of a trailer. Or so I am told.  ;)

Got the same harbor freight chock in the vid on a wire mesh trailer. The chock is too wide for dirt bike tires to hold the bike upright. Added pipe and elbows to assist while strapping down. The rear wheel strap keeps the rear tire from bouncing around.

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/SS1618/Bikes/WP_001434.jpg)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: Chuck A. on September 16, 2015, 04:48:02 AM
Quote from: KrisCook on September 15, 2015, 10:39:24 AM
.........................And I was already laughing at all those tie straps.


Kris, coming on, anyone can see, that's what's holding the trailer side on. :o 8) ;D
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: griff on September 16, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
I've been working on a design for a motorcycle trailer that the loading area drops flat to the ground. I'm thinking about making them in my shop to sell as well. I mainly want one for myself as loading into the back of my F350 is a pain because of how tall it is. I have a decent 16 ft trailer but it's way overkill for hauling two or three dirt bikes.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: klaviator on September 16, 2015, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: griff on September 16, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
I've been working on a design for a motorcycle trailer that the loading area drops flat to the ground. I'm thinking about making them in my shop to sell as well. I mainly want one for myself as loading into the back of my F350 is a pain because of how tall it is. I have a decent 16 ft trailer but it's way overkill for hauling two or three dirt bikes.

I know a guy in Georgia that makes trailers that do that.  http://www.razortrailers.com/ (http://www.razortrailers.com/)  The guy who makes these is a motorcycle rider.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: IceCold4x4 on September 17, 2015, 08:32:29 AM
I used one of the Sprinter vans to haul the zrx home easy peasy.

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Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: sctparker on September 17, 2015, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: griff on September 16, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
I've been working on a design for a motorcycle trailer that the loading area drops flat to the ground. I'm thinking about making them in my shop to sell as well. I mainly want one for myself as loading into the back of my F350 is a pain because of how tall it is. I have a decent 16 ft trailer but it's way overkill for hauling two or three dirt bikes.

When I use to have lifted trucks and dirt bikes  I had one of these http://www.baxleycompanies.com/Trailers.html   they do what you are talking about and it was really simple to use and pulled like it wasn't even there  and  in Texas I left the parking lot late one night after eating and got down the road I would guess 1/4 mile maybe and looked back to just check and it was gone and so were two cruisers that were on it seems when we loaded the trailer we failed to put the lock on it and Pablo or Juan  I don't remember his name just his ethnicity,  was picked up about a month later in Baytown,  pulling the trailer trying to steal someones bike with one on the trailer already that was stolen my trailer was impounded and held for evidence and mysteriously vanished  so now if I  don't ride and  I trailer it's  in an enclosed so its a little heavier to steal and nobody knows what's in it
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: lk2rd on September 17, 2015, 07:35:41 PM
I like the Pit Bull Trailer Restraint but, I don't like the price.  I'm working on a homemade version.  I think I will buy their latches for around $45 since making them would be time comsuming.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: LawnmowerRG on September 17, 2015, 10:53:52 PM
Well I pull a trailer a 10k+ a year. So trailers dont bother me.

A good wheel chock is really nice.

If you are putting one in a truck make sure the ramp is secured to the truck. I saw many bikes that had been dropped when I worked on bike. They started up and kicked the ramp out.

Then when unloading make sure you leave the bike in gear (engine not running) and use the clutch as a break. The front break will usually be mostly useless. Main thing it will do is make the tire slide. The result many times is that it goes sideways away from you and falls off the ramp, or ends up laying on its side on a wide ramp.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: DachshundUberAlles on September 18, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
I can tell you guys don't race. Put a set of eye bolts to hook the tie downs, either in the truck bed or trailer rails, and haul away. Been doing it for years with just truck beds and towing both open and enclosed trailers, M/X and roadrace, and never tipped one yet. The most important thing is to NOT SKIMP when it comes to buying the tie-downs. There's a reason ANCRA costs a little more...

Oh, and +1 on the PITBULL trailer restraint. Simple, effective, and worth every penny.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: SpeedyR on September 22, 2015, 07:49:00 PM
love my Kendon trailer. I would rather trailer my dirt bikes than ride them places. well till it turns to dirt!!

I just got back from trailering my 950 and 450 out to colorado. Jetta TDI and the two bikes, worked like a charm and still got around 30mpg with a full car and both bikes out and back.  Photos from Cottonwood Pass, just over 12k' between Buena Vista and Taylor Park Reservoir in Colorado.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t-CMUNcd8CRCPgV5cV-SmjrOfG5oiAa5u__e0xk80QJQnbwkHCk4e9FfH4YnPlkJOoEQNQ-XpobN838oREGLGOprNSvTsulG6CxH-HKY_b1ZPpnr5MEJvbC9VXFUg-hGMNwfECI8k9ASSDW9IP8xqqx_l3uN37fu-kG_S365Uk9WmJxh7XcL9yHefsKGyp14hEALEiDV4hwXkPYNbhbyYHeIJZudauk2geKkr26tBIpj67Bmjb3XWryGcbPdfa8gRbiHSa7toXxyO5LAqIMHopcjmHPULcxcyRKJaC0CWa2zQ14j3-NJTl6Z_1ooJLtqm_XhktES_0xUJJ_-TwCjc9X4J60m94QQhRn8PdtAuEBXWY3xmvGjccFGOgSPusQYR82vLFlR6rzrkllF1Dms_mJ5jt-rw9hb_kpYjI9xBQnTmVnaHvazy0Dcc8ch9qgyoFe59MdXgGtHxo47pejtyR9S9u3pmqK8QOss4pzQ7liexpfP5LlbWSAc2Xg4Wu-gJs5g3PSJ09vM36yjglOJm-IxIaC9KUY0k4XWFnlr1GQ=w1216-h912-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TJAmiQq2YBpG8_btO5aZQOkLOOD5jZWi3QDkjcQHKrixCMBgJ1Qj80Csa3kVHuK7gJE-erTwLfj6ygoqjqKNekZa0OUlu0JgM8tIvrHNy4YZfsKjgunaX0TQcuyz0D1nQ3rOKan_ZkoZ5suTRSyZkgCFdaT-3t1Wy8YKVFfHDd0uUyN26j0ghewEWyteZgkDQIgQX-IZyHEaOaZ8s9Nt0f5w3NZlGIoPMaTDMHYW_EOjCHoojRk7fmLvD8yw7vt5b9EUVWzZZAJA_evVNqjr_2WJCToLUHYa5K4V7iGAiQ_7B2DGx6MiL_sM9JHtZd9HJayMeJIHURUODbGfqfxftK5At3eEbHlAuHPGDv5U6wDRgRWSnN4g-NrMfDRlY9TIbF62t_-896v9ulA5JBTICCvSV_2wuRNOfz-LvZ4P3kkFuyS3SWTt7vz9dATBViC3pJuGzl1O8vrQFkAQ5PTVvACMhYWYCBuFsMiz5RJwx6QGyzYRGdehzTwTpNltTXxWZOXHH8KOqmvDmWUNJV0g3StakVSwmZ7MwfS2gfJu7WY=w1216-h912-no)


easy to get the bikes on it, folds up when not in use, and just a smooth, lightweight trailer package.

my only comment is to get good tie down straps. IMHO you really should have ones that use carabiners, not hooks. when you hit a big enough bump, the hooks will unhook and your bike goes for a ride of it's own. I have some really nice KTM ratcheting tie downs that I use in the front and then use some more basic ones in the back.

also tie down the front wheel so it can't move side to side or anywhere. keeps things locked down solid.

I also have a VersaHaul hitch mount if I'm just taking my 450 somewhere. I haven't tried to put the 950 up there (450lbs), I think that would scare me on any type of twisty or bumpy roads. Plus I can ride the 950 more places than I would the 450. :)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: lostinbama on September 22, 2015, 11:09:39 PM
The pitbull trailer restraint system is the way to go. Yes it's pricey, but if you haul regularly, it's worth every cent.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12032095_823970017715804_6096207473369952016_n.jpg?oh=69c17b551f3c465030e0f224d4c31776&oe=569508F6)

I need to order another floor plate for my creeper van, but in the mean time I've got a Baxley chock I throw in there when I haul in it.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12003329_823970031049136_6605738779854443242_n.jpg?oh=d559f98f3aaac0c5f8c6e3907f704535&oe=56A8A96D)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: Al Goodwin on September 23, 2015, 12:25:08 PM
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k258/allenandtonya/motorcycle%20pics/FB_IMG_1430144055753_zps162yaqdt.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/allenandtonya/media/motorcycle%20pics/FB_IMG_1430144055753_zps162yaqdt.jpg.html)

.Ballast.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k258/allenandtonya/motorcycle%20pics/IMAG0870_zpsxmslwuv4.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/allenandtonya/media/motorcycle%20pics/IMAG0870_zpsxmslwuv4.jpg.html)

.And if I ever need to haul the big bike...I guess it'll be on this trailer.
.(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k258/allenandtonya/24%20Hour%20Challenge/IMAG1191_zpsskvl0kw3.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/allenandtonya/media/24%20Hour%20Challenge/IMAG1191_zpsskvl0kw3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/62b8cfe3352c136a3cdc0de67e0883ad.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/25/aef0151c3dbb12c25f2700efbab4419b.jpg)

Sketchy but it was quite stable and dint have any give. 

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Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: Nice Goat on September 25, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
Sketchy but it was quite stable and dint have any give. 

You have more guts than I do.  I would never even attempt that!  :o
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: gharshman on September 25, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
Sketchy but it was quite stable and dint have any give. 

You have more guts than I do.  I would never even attempt that!  :o
Oddly enough it was very stable.  I jumped all over it for 5 min to be sure.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: jrou111 on September 29, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
I've got a 3 rail trailer that I bought for $400 a few years ago. It's hauled many bikes, including a KLR, TTR, and a KTM 400 all at the same time.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/29/07e99895e4c1abc83419a68861c6f435.jpg)

I also have a Harbor Freight hitch hauler that I paid $80 on sale for. It's hauled a ton of bikes too. I think the heaviest though was only ~350lbs (DR650)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/29/c724ec915bdd6f118263913502e6d441.jpg)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: springer on September 29, 2015, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: gharshman on September 25, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
Sketchy but it was quite stable and dint have any give. 

You have more guts than I do.  I would never even attempt that!  :o
Oddly enough it was very stable.  I jumped all over it for 5 min to be sure.
Personally, I would want something more better.

I have this one and it is easy to set-up(straps secure the ramp to the tailgate/bed of the truck via the bumper. This insures the ramp will not slip back when loading/unloading.), wide enough so you can walk beside the motorcycle, and folds for ease of storage.
$149.00 is not a bad price;
http://www.amazon.com/Lund-602004-Bi-Fold-1500-Pound-Capacity/dp/B000A7BMKK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1443563235&sr=8-1&keywords=motorcycle+ramps+aluminum

I have used this type, not sure if it is this brand but looked similar.
$119.99

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XK9MW8G?psc=1

At $97.59, this one looks like a deal;

http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Max-5500-4045-Weight-Folding/dp/B001NYTEP4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443563235&sr=8-2&keywords=motorcycle+ramps+aluminum
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: IceCold4x4 on September 29, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: springer on September 29, 2015, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: gharshman on September 25, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: IceCold4x4 on September 25, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
Sketchy but it was quite stable and dint have any give. 

You have more guts than I do.  I would never even attempt that!  :o
Oddly enough it was very stable.  I jumped all over it for 5 min to be sure.
Personally, I would want something more better.

I have this one and it is easy to set-up(straps secure the ramp to the tailgate/bed of the truck via the bumper. This insures the ramp will not slip back when loading/unloading.), wide enough so you can walk beside the motorcycle, and folds for ease of storage.
$149.00 is not a bad price;
http://www.amazon.com/Lund-602004-Bi-Fold-1500-Pound-Capacity/dp/B000A7BMKK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1443563235&sr=8-1&keywords=motorcycle+ramps+aluminum

I have used this type, not sure if it is this brand but looked similar.
$119.99

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XK9MW8G?psc=1

At $97.59, this one looks like a deal;

http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Max-5500-4045-Weight-Folding/dp/B001NYTEP4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443563235&sr=8-2&keywords=motorcycle+ramps+aluminum
I'd completely agree.  However due to odd circumstances that's what was available at the time.  Also notice the very shallow angle.  A real ramp is on my list of things to buy.  Problem is that's an 8k list for a 2k dollar bike.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: Gam on September 29, 2015, 06:08:10 PM
I have a trifold aluminum ramp to run them up and off my truck.  It's almost as wide as the truck bed when unfolded, I can run bikes up on it and back them off by myself without worrying about going off the side, the klx and xt225 at least, I would want some spotters for the KLR, but never had a reason to put it the back of the pickup.
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: Sagebrush on September 29, 2015, 07:25:56 PM
I've only trailed a large bike once when it broke down in Tellico Plains, TN. I have two 3500 dually trucks and its a pain to bed load. I put my ST1100 in a 2wd 3500 truck and said I would never do that again, unloading it was scary even with the heavy duty long trifold ramp. I would load a DR650 or something like that in a 2wd though, just nothing bigger.

My 4x4 3500 dually brought my DL1000 home after a stator failure. I just had my folks pick up a U-Haul motorcycle trailer in Gadsden, not expensive, easy to use, fairly painless. Spent more on diesel fuel than the trailer by far.

I think I'm going to put a Condor chock in my 12' Haulmark work trailer though, just haven't gotten around to it. It needs anchor points too, I have some E-Track laying around. That will save me a little money for having to rent something, I already have the Haulmark, the hardware for tie downs and the chock though. If I didn't have the stuff laying around I wouldn't bother, the U-Haul option is better than letting a trailer sit and sit with the tires rotting. I hardly use my little Haulmak, probably blow an old Chinese tire if I used it. I finally broke down out of state and of course teh trailer was not road ready, U-Haul motorcycle trailer rental worked fine though. Beats a heavy bike in the back of my truck any day.

Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 01, 2015, 09:10:35 AM
I've done the truck bed thing and the trailer thing and found they both work well but we prefer to use mamas car. It saves gas and it's easier to back up.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/01/3d9aec059c40ac2791a5bb3289801411.jpg)
Title: Re: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: MadMax on October 01, 2015, 03:03:17 PM
Testing a new concept:

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Title: Hauling your motorcycle
Post by: wavyspike on October 01, 2015, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: Ryanbroome on October 01, 2015, 09:10:35 AM
I've done the truck bed thing and the trailer thing and found they both work well but we prefer to use mamas car. It saves gas and it's easier to back up.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/01/3d9aec059c40ac2791a5bb3289801411.jpg)

Could use some more tie downs...