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Alabama Rides => Riding Games => Topic started by: Reserector on October 21, 2015, 07:23:03 AM

Title: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Reserector on October 21, 2015, 07:23:03 AM
This is a photo challenge.  Here's how it works:

Click this link to view the map:  http://photogrammar.yale.edu/map/  It is a organized cache of photos taken between 1935 and 1945.
Click the green areas and view the photos that were taken in a particular area. (Pick an area close to you.)
Look through the photos, and see if you can find one that you can duplicate.
Go there, and try to retake the photo at the same angle and distance as the original.
Post them both here.

Extra points for overlaying them.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: springer on October 21, 2015, 08:40:49 AM
 Interesting game!
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 21, 2015, 09:15:07 AM
I'm doing this one
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Guidedawg on October 21, 2015, 10:40:45 AM
I assume we want to incorporate the bike in the pic, or at least when possible?  There are few spots I can recognize in my area, but some that I do are inaccessible other than shots from a much further distance.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: jrobinson on October 21, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
2015 pic is good......ride your bike to take the pic is better........bike in pic is BEST.

I would like to see this with any old pic, not just the ones from the site.

I also like pics through time of people. Same people at different ages.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: rich on October 22, 2015, 07:51:44 AM
Thanks for sharing. The link leads to a wonderful collection of photos. I spent hours last night just surfing.

I thought I was well traveled in the good old USA! But I filtered on the photographer Arthur Rothstein and was amazed at the states he traveled through from '35 to '45.

Again, thank you for sharing.

Rich
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Reserector on October 22, 2015, 09:49:29 AM
I found a couple of local pics that I thought would be easy, but I'm still hunting them.  But it sure is a fun thing to do on the bike. 
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Reserector on October 23, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
Logs at Masonite Corporation, Laurel, MS

(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8b20000/8b20900/8b20902v.jpg)

I couldn't get to the fenced-in area where the original was taken.  The smoke stack in the background no longer exists, but the water tower does.  Look closely.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/CAM02760_zpsolcn1ceq.jpg)




Laurel, MS 1939
(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8a24000/8a24900/8a24919v.jpg)

October 2015
The buildings in the background must have been demolished when the "S-curve" was fixe on I-59, because I distinctly remember seeing that "BOTTLING COMPANY" building.  I took this picture standing alongside cars that were waiting in Phillips Drive Thru.  I was holding a printed photo in my left hand, camera in my right, and wearing full gear and a crash helmet.  Hahaha.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/3b003089-5ff0-4abc-b2ab-80feff7a23e6_zpsoxfnjwcq.jpg)


People gathered at the bank, Laurel, MS in 1939
(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8a24000/8a24900/8a24923v.jpg)

I stood in the intersection, and crouched down to simulate the original angle.  Again, with the helmet still on. 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/CAM02758_zpst8xvtiq2.jpg)


This one had me thrown for a loop, until I realized it was the same bank, different point of view.
(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8a24000/8a24800/8a24898v.jpg)


As I walked around by the bank, I recognized this shot, and took it from memory, because I didn't have a printed copy to study.  I later cropped the image it to be more accurate.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/99938d8d-ef59-45d9-951e-0d3f5859f69d_zpsyknqrdrd.jpg)


An interesting note:  The street in front of the bank was paved in the 1939 pic.  It is brick in the recent pic.  You can see a big difference in curb height in the bank pictures, because the bricks were apparently laid over pavement.
However, the reverse is true of the street with the horse and wagon; it is brick in the 1939 photo, but paved in the current shot.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: jrobinson on October 23, 2015, 11:06:05 AM
Great job on the photos. Looking forward to getting out and taking some of these myself.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 23, 2015, 12:48:48 PM

Quote from: Reserector on October 23, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
Logs at Masonite Corporation, Laurel, MS

(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8b20000/8b20900/8b20902v.jpg)

I couldn't get to the fenced-in area where the original was taken.  The smoke stack in the background no longer exists, but the water tower does.  Look closely.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/CAM02760_zpsolcn1ceq.jpg)




Laurel, MS 1939
(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8a24000/8a24900/8a24919v.jpg)

October 2015
The buildings in the background must have been demolished when the "S-curve" was fixe on I-59, because I distinctly remember seeing that "BOTTLING COMPANY" building.  I took this picture standing alongside cars that were waiting in Phillips Drive Thru.  I was holding a printed photo in my left hand, camera in my right, and wearing full gear and a crash helmet.  Hahaha.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/3b003089-5ff0-4abc-b2ab-80feff7a23e6_zpsoxfnjwcq.jpg)


People gathered at the bank, Laurel, MS in 1939
(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8a24000/8a24900/8a24923v.jpg)

I stood in the intersection, and crouched down to simulate the original angle.  Again, with the helmet still on. 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/CAM02758_zpst8xvtiq2.jpg)


This one had me thrown for a loop, until I realized it was the same bank, different point of view.
(http://photogrammar.research.yale.edu/photos/service/pnp/fsa/8a24000/8a24800/8a24898v.jpg)


As I walked around by the bank, I recognized this shot, and took it from memory, because I didn't have a printed copy to study.  I later cropped the image it to be more accurate.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/Reserector_/99938d8d-ef59-45d9-951e-0d3f5859f69d_zpsyknqrdrd.jpg)


An interesting note:  The street in front of the bank was paved in the 1939 pic.  It is brick in the recent pic.  You can see a big difference in curb height in the bank pictures, because the bricks were apparently laid over pavement.
However, the reverse is true of the street with the horse and wagon; it is brick in the 1939 photo, but paved in the current shot.

awesome job!
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 23, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
I'm not convinced this is it but it sure looks the same
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/23/c5ad8ca54a4b348f5fe08e77fcce8c42.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/23/11d6e9b5f561f31edf7e78a9b87a5e95.jpg)
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Guidedawg on October 24, 2015, 07:37:42 AM
Looks like a win to me!
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Mulley on October 25, 2015, 07:48:16 AM
Quote from: Ryanbroome on October 23, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
I'm not convinced this is it but it sure looks the same
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/23/c5ad8ca54a4b348f5fe08e77fcce8c42.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/23/11d6e9b5f561f31edf7e78a9b87a5e95.jpg)
I'm pretty sure that's not the same but it sure looks like it. The are a few significant differences. The big one is the big hill in the background. Then look at the foundation for the house. One is very close to grade while the other is elevated with steps to the porch.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Reserector on October 26, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
The hill is there in the background.  The camera angle is slightly different, but if you allow for that, it is correct.
The foundation of the house is the same elevation.  It appears they've done some work on the porch that did away with the facia boards in the old pic. 
I'm convinced. 
Hey, I wonder if the current owner would love to see the old picture of their home.  I know I would.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Ryanbroome on October 26, 2015, 07:52:56 AM

Quote from: Reserector on October 26, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
The hill is there in the background.  The camera angle is slightly different, but if you allow for that, it is correct.
The foundation of the house is the same elevation.  It appears they've done some work on the porch that did away with the facia boards in the old pic. 
I'm convinced. 
Hey, I wonder if the current owner would love to see the old picture of their home.  I know I would.

The same question has crossed my mine. I think I'll go talk to them
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Reserector on November 03, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
I found one more, but it is dark by the time I get there after work, so I will have to wait until the weekend.
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: gene46 on November 14, 2015, 04:39:06 PM
I am having fun with this game! It takes some research! I went through Childersburg several weeks ago. I was in my truck because it was raining and I was having to haul some things. I took some of these pictures with me for preliminary research. I went back today on my bike. Luckily I found a woman in town that was born in the 1930's. Things have changed so much, but she was able to show me some things (Powell Drug Co and the Post Office) that I would never have been able to identify from just looking at them.
The gas station:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11236476_10153800968152871_1227289175014673472_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12232674_10153800967832871_5989760628679325096_o.jpg)

Buidings
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/12184199_10153800965612871_2986391657397499672_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12238140_10153800965102871_6792142495471215581_o.jpg)

Powell Drug Company:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11227067_10153800962862871_9209197828253756976_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/12239270_10153800962582871_3953612557142468575_o.jpg)

This was the main street.:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12248118_10153800961437871_1340588186062041999_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12183834_10153800961302871_2896197737943007167_o.jpg)

This was the US Post Office:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/t31.0-8/12244423_10153800951862871_6693717916505548629_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12238522_10153800951577871_7202151973915826328_o.jpg)
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Ryanbroome on November 14, 2015, 07:22:13 PM
That's awesome!
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Reserector on November 17, 2015, 07:05:20 AM
Once again, I failed to get to the Ellisville Post Office location in daylight.  Will try again this weekend.  Once I get that one, I suppose I will need to widen my search.

You did a great job finding those.  I would not have gotten some of them without help, either.  But comparing the pics, I can see it.  Awesome job!
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: Reserector on November 17, 2015, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: gene46 on November 14, 2015, 04:39:06 PM


This was the main street.:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12248118_10153800961437871_1340588186062041999_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12183834_10153800961302871_2896197737943007167_o.jpg)



I think those are the original power poles. 
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: jrobinson on May 05, 2016, 05:38:37 PM
Scottsboro downtown north side of square in the 30's.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160505/2ebeadc59569fc0d55caeec4c593ba25.jpg)


Same place today.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160505/70ea87a4c9af9e77a35b329c03d1d040.jpg)
Title: Re: History Repeats Itself
Post by: VWCarlos on June 04, 2016, 07:04:07 PM
Found this old picture on the Internet and thought it would cool to use for this post.

Past
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160605/9c9a4c3b707384756839ff4b981b5de9.jpg)

Today
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160605/0244463db3cf2fcd8a3904c3986137db.jpg)